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4th dimenson

Postby papernuke » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:03 am

If the 3rd, 2nd, and 1st dimensions all have either length, highth, or width, then what would the fourth dimension have?
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Postby duraultra » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:35 am

I believe I read on alkaline's webpage that it is simply another variable much like length, heigth, and width. Only most people can't percieve it...much like "fred" in the 2d world can only percieve heigth and length, but not width.
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Postby jinydu » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:54 am

"Length", "height" and "width" are all arbitrary anyway. The important point is that in nD, you have n linearly independent directions.
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Postby Keiji » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:33 am

To answer the question: Alkaline used the term "trength".
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Postby papernuke » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:59 pm

Rob wrote:To answer the question: Alkaline used the term "trength".



Then what is trength? And then what are the things for the other dimensons that I asked about some time ago?
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Postby moonlord » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:58 am

You answered the question yourself. All 4D objects have length, width, height and trength. They are, as jinydu stated, arbitrary names, corresponding to the X, Y, Z and W axis.
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Postby papernuke » Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:24 pm

No I meant what does trength equal? If length is how long, hidth how high, and width how wide, then what is trength?
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Postby houserichichi » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:49 pm

A measure of distance along the fourth axis independent of the other three. There's no common name for it.
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Postby Nick » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:17 pm

hieght = how high
length = how long
width = how wide

Using the pattern, we can say that trength is either how treng or how trenge. I prefer how treng. :)
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Postby papernuke » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:36 pm

Then what does treng mean? Like how treng, what is how treng?
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Postby Nick » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:42 pm

It is the measure of the 4th dimension axis. For example: this building is 50 feet long, 300 feet wide, 2000 feet high, and 600 feet treng.

I didn't come up with it, I'm just following the pattern ;)
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Postby papernuke » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:51 pm

Then what does treng mean? The meaning? Like here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/long it says long is extending at a great distance...but then what is treng?
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Postby houserichichi » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:06 am

Long and length don't mean the same thing. Length is a measurement along an axis. Width is a measurement along an axis perpendicular to length. Height is a measurement along an axis perpendicular to the length and width axes. The fourth one (whatever you call it) is a measurement along an axis perpendicular to the length, width, and height axes.
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Postby papernuke » Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:01 am

Oh now I get it, and that was what I was looking for not what irockyou was telling me :D thanks.
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Postby Nick » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:28 am

Sorry, I thought I showed you that when I described the building.
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Postby PWrong » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:37 am

Using the pattern, we can say that trength is either how treng or how trenge. I prefer how treng.
I thought it was trong. That makes more sense, because it rhymes with long.
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Postby pacecil » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:26 pm

If the time line is perpendicular to each of the other axis, does this make them all parallel to each other?
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Postby Nick » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:37 pm

PWrong wrote:
Using the pattern, we can say that trength is either how treng or how trenge. I prefer how treng.
I thought it was trong. That makes more sense, because it rhymes with long.


I'm right for two reasons: 1, my way makes sense, and 2, your way doesn't.

1:
length=how long (removes the "th")
width=how wide (removes the "th" and adds "e")
height=how high (removes the "th")

Nowhere do you see them changing a vowel (I know that in height the "e" is removed as well, but the "ei" in height and the "i" in high are pronounced the same, so it doesn't much matter). Therefore, in the case of trength, they either remove the "th", or remove the "th" and add an "e". I don't like the "e", so I prefer treng; this is subject to change.

2:
If long, wide, and high rhymed with each other, then I would consider trong; but they don't, therefore your reason that "they rhyme therefore its right" has no foundation on logic.

I believe I just rocked. :D
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Postby papernuke » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:52 pm

irockyou wrote:Sorry, I thought I showed you that when I described the building.



Its ok thanks anyway though.
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Postby Keiji » Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:45 pm

irockyou wrote:length=how long (removes the "th")
width=how wide (removes the "th" and adds "e")
height=how high (removes the "th")

Nowhere do you see them changing a vowel


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Postby Nick » Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:56 pm

Oooh.... that hurts. That really hurts... :oops:

Didn't notice that. Still, it's only one iteration, whereas the removal "th" appears in all cases.
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Postby PWrong » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:16 am

Alkaline's glossary wrote:trength noun [Garrett Jones] - the four dimensional analog of length, width, and height. Something with great trength is trong, and something with small trength is tarrow. (These terms were previously tridth, tride, and trin.) Alternate terms are tetridth, tetride, and tetrin.
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Postby Nick » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:47 am

I disagree, I think it should be changed to treng.
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Postby bo198214 » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:27 pm

Hey rocky, now are you mindlessly stubborn.
lenght - long is the pattern which is applicable here, so trength - trong. :roll:
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Postby Nick » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:39 pm

I understand the thinking between length:long::trength:trong, but that only makes sense with length and long; treng makes sense with all three:

length:long::trength:treng
width:wide::trength:treng
height:high::trength:treng.
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Postby moonlord » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:51 pm

Come on people, it's not the lingvistic problem that is so important. :roll: I support trong, anyway.
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Postby bo198214 » Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:01 pm

trength is similar to length and not to height or width.
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Postby Nick » Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:11 pm

Fine. Whatever. :roll:
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Postby Keiji » Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:48 pm

This is getting out of hand - locked.
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