Alkaline, have you seen this?

[sup2069]

Have you seen this movie called Supernova? It came out back in 2000; I just saw it a hour ago on sci-fi channel.

SUPERNOVA (2000)

In the 22nd century, a medical space vessel responds to a distress call from a mining colony. Once they take a mysterious survivor on board, the crew finds itself subjected to bizarre behavioral ? and homicidal ? changes. The cast of this cosmic horror film includes James Spader (Stargate), Oscar-nominee and Saturn Award-winner Angela Bassett (Strange Days, Contact), Robin Tunney (The Craft, End of Days), Lou Diamond Phillips (Route 666, Wolf Lake) and Hollywood veteran Robert Forster (Alligator, The Black Hole).

Airs Wednesday, December 3, at 9PM ET/PT

I have missed about 45 minutes of the movie, but I tuned in to were they found a alien object from a mining moon. Incased inside this beautiful looking case was 9th dimensional matter. In one scene it shows a guy sticking his hand through it and it vanishing. ( Being that he stuck his hand into the 9th dimension) Apparently the story added something to wear the matter could rejuvenate and alter human anatomy to wear you would mutate if left exposed to long. It turns out it was a bomb made by aliens as smart as gods.

The cool thing that I like about this movie is that at the end, the 9th dimensional matter became unstable and detonated. The two people who survived, escaped in there ship using dimensional jump. I was fascinated with he CGI views. In quick scene flicks, it shows the 4th dimension ( not literally) and other things. Close to the end you find out the explosion will or will not reach earth. Since the supernova was a 9th dimensional one, it would fly through the universe at lights speeds but, it could travel extremely far.

Well I hope I didn't ruin it for anyone, I was just excited by it and thought I share.


Link: http://www.scifi.com/onair/movies/#wed

Pretty good movie, I was testing out my dads new 27" TV.

Edit: Sorry for the mistakes in my thread, I am extremely tired. I will correct it at work tomorrow morning.

[alkaline]

i haven't seen the movie. it got some pretty bad reviews...

http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/supernova/

It makes no sense to me why something 9-dimensional would fly at light speeds, unless they were non-standard dimensions. It sounds like the writers didn't actually understand dimensions - a 9-dimensional explosion would dissipate its energy with distance so quickly that a 9-dimensional explosion in your room probably wouldn't harm you.

[Keiji]

::agrees with alkaline::

However there is a way that a 4+th dimensional object could travel superfast around the 3rd dimension. Consider an analogy with Fred and Bob:

Since Fred's world is simply a paper-like object in Bob's world, Bob is free to fold it around however he likes and Fred will not notice a thing. Imagine that Bob folds the world over in half, and nails it to the wall (or any object) through both layers. To Bob, it is simply a nail through a folded paperlike object, but to Fred, he sees two circles, each where the nail intersects the object.

Now, suppose instead of nailing it to a wall, he folds it up like a concertina (like this: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ), and sends a sphere through it. To Fred will see a line of circles moving superfast across his world.

In the same way, if a tetronian (or even higher dimensional person) got hold of our world, folded it into a concertina and sent a glome through it, we would see a line of spheres moving, possibly faster than the speed of light, along our world.

[sup2069]

Well not exactly at light speeds, I didnt catch the last part she mentioned about how fast it was moving and such.

Yes those are some pretty bad reviews, again it is my mistake I was tired when posting the info, I missed alot of infoo about it. My mistake

[alkaline]

bobxp: that would be *faster* than the speed of light relative to the lower-dimensional space; it would be like some kind of hyper-jump effect.

[Keiji]

we would see a line of spheres moving, possibly faster than the speed of light, along our world.

... sigh

[3l3ctr0]

9-dimensional explosion would dissipate its energy with distance so quickly that a 9-dimensional explosion in your room probably wouldn't harm you.

so in other words the explotion from a 9th dimensinal obbject would loose its energy so fast it would not get verry far?

[jinydu]

In 9 dimensions, energy dissipates according to an inverse-8th power law.

[3l3ctr0]

WHOA?

[jinydu]

Ever noticed how the circumphere of a circle is 1-dimensional, and the surface of a sphere is 2-dimensional. In general, the surface of an n-dimensional sphere is (n-1)-dimensional.

Now, imagine that at one particular instant, energy is released from the center of the n-dimensional sphere. The energy will travel outwards in an expanding n-sphere.

Consider the situation at a particular time after the energy was released. All of the energy will be spread out in an n-sphere. Let the radius of that n-sphere be r. But the surface of the sphere is proportional to r^(n-1). We may as well write:

Surface Area = k * r^(n-1)
for some constant k.

But the total energy is still the same. Let the total energy be E. Then:

Energy per unit surface area = E / (k * r^(n-1)) = c/r^(n-1)
where c is some other constant

Therefore, energy is proportional to 1/r^(n-1). In other words, energy dissipates according to an inverse (n-1)th power law.

For the particular case of 9 dimensions, n = 9. So energy dissipates with an inverse 8th power law.

[3l3ctr0]

ooohhhhhhh so all the energy would be used up quickly

[wendy]

Energy disapation in hyperbolic space is immeasurably faster. Based on a unit of curvature of 4000 miles, the whole universe as we know it, would fit in a sphere the size of the sun (864000 miles).

If one considers our universe as living on a horosphere in H4 space, there are chords of this thing that basically run of length x, where F(x) is the arc on the surface, where F(x) is the fibbonacci series.

So F(13) is 233, and travelling 13*4000 miles = 52000 miles in H4 gives the equilivant of 932,000 miles in real space. For every extra 4000 miles in H4, you multiply the horospheric distance by 1.61803398875.

And since this horosphere has a surface geometry of E3, there is no way of telling we are not living on it.