different dimensions in the same place

[papernuke]

i thought of something while i was reading my book warped passages. i thought that all dimensions, however many there are, are in one universe. except for example a fourth dimensional being could go around our universe seeing more things than us and felling more, but can go in a direction perpendicular to up down, left, right, forewards, and backwards. same for higher dimensional peoples, and all the higher dimensional things can just go through the lower ones. its just like a game, except when youre in a dimension, you cant go to a higher one. and the lower dimensional ones have handicaps, which is they cant go in some directions while higher dimensional ones can. thoughts?

[gerren]

Our universe is basically only one dimension, if you will. When theoretically speaking of the 4th dimension actually existing, we havent really proved anything-no one knows. It is all theory. But your question is flawed to begin with as you cant have but one dimension in a universe (you can portray other dimesions but besides that you cant actually be in another dimension)

[PWrong]

i thought that all dimensions, however many there are, are in one universe. except for example a fourth dimensional being could go around our universe seeing more things than us and felling more, but can go in a direction perpendicular to up down, left, right, forewards, and backwards. same for higher dimensional peoples, and all the higher dimensional things can just go through the lower ones. its just like a game, except when youre in a dimension, you cant go to a higher one. and the lower dimensional ones have handicaps, which is they cant go in some directions while higher dimensional ones can. thoughts?

It's possible, but unlikely to be true in this universe. The most obvious problem is that we've never seen evidence for a 4th dimension. Furthermore, if there was a 4th dimension that gravity could interact with, the earth would spin out of orbit because of the inverse cube law.

The kaluza-klein dimensions are much more likely.

Our universe is basically only one dimension, if you will.

What are you talking about? Point in the direction of the "only dimension", and I will point in a direction perpendicular to it, thus proving there is more than one dimension.

[XVX]

Also remember, if you think there are all these objects and people floating around and doing their business in higher dimensions, then how come we never see portions of them?

All these higher dimensional objects and beings just avoid our neck of the dimensions? Did we do something wrong? How come we never see any of these objects cross through our three dimensions?

[Hugh]

Also remember, if you think there are all these objects and people floating around and doing their business in higher dimensions, then how come we never see portions of them?

All these higher dimensional objects and beings just avoid our neck of the dimensions? Did we do something wrong? How come we never see any of these objects cross through our three dimensions?

If there are actual existing higher spatial dimensions, is it possible that we only see a 3d "slice" of them with our limited vision?

We see only the compilation of the surface of very, very tiny particles. Each of these individual particles may actually have higher spatial dimensions than three, but we see only the surface of the particles that are closest to us. We'd see the boundary of a 4d hypercube as a 3d cube, and the boundary of a 4d hypersphere as a 3d sphere.

[thigle]

icon, it's pretty much as you think.

and XVX, the more you limit yourself, the more limited you are. yes, it's that simple.

[papernuke]

icon, it's pretty much as you think.

what does that mean?

[Russ1953]

Life has a way of tuning its indigenous beings to the wave-lengths of its spectrum. Is that coincidential? Now about higher life-forms. Well would'nt we be surprised if it was about the hokey pokie! If you think about it. The concept rings party. All species are party to another of its kind whether ancestrial, symbiotic or-. Now ask yourself considering you had possibly millions of years of scientific playtime and you came upon humans. You'd look at them and see their progression is still at the primal base of- I think, Therefore I am. Lets say the higher species is at the - We are, therefore We know! Well I would'nt annilate us pesky unpredictable creatures. But, I would make sure I threw them a bone every once in a while to see if any of their factions grew a sincere state of existence and cared for their world. Face it. Everything we do is used for postering. Not the betterment of our species or symbiots. We are still primal. When the day comes we drop fallacious postering I don't believe we'll have inclusion even then. We'll need a long haul to even get an invitation. In other words, we should be grateful that we have'nt been wiped off the face of the earth as of yet and are allowed to banter up to now. I would however try to seed them a little provacation to spun growth to see if anything could take root and for them to see the error of their ways but even then I'd be hesitant as to why I would even care. I'm sure billions of other promising species have failed that concern. I believe we are basically a form of entertainment for the higher ups to come see and be awed. There's nothing basically intelligent about us et al. Even our birth certificates have fine print and disclaimers. Born in the state of can be damaging to many and time defactos don't help either. Inject a person from the 30's, say Chicago in downtown Chicago today. Would that person blend. No matter what, the answer is no. Once implanted with your culture you are destined to agregate beingness greater than where you were born , how you were raised, etc. That takes millions of years. If we are to expect anything it will be, for us to be set back to an age where there could be hope for our species from whence we took a wrong turn. If you read history we've been reset more than once before. I believe the higher lifeforms are beyond wary of us. I believe if left to our own devices the next reset will be irreversible. Its our nature to religionate any sense of reality. We have always postulized any accomplishment. The only humbled amongst us is the un-invited, and disenfranchised. I'm not citing socialism or any socialist crap. I'm talking about if we truely desire to grow as a species. All we know current in the sciences needs to be inclusive to all beings or we are lost. We must render planned obsolesence, obsolete. Have no ficticious iconic entities, and charter the challenge of truth with barganing. I'm quite sure the only enlightened ones to succeed from us will be harvested and transplanted elsewhere for their own protection to age. Nothing like a good wine. So live right and teach others to prosper, then and only then, will we begin to see change. Oh the 60's truely failed to carry on my brothers and sisters. In every town, you had a home.

[PWrong]

Life has a way of tuning its indigenous beings to the wave-lengths of its spectrum. Is that coincidential?

That's not the word I'd use. I was think more along the lines of "nonsensical".

I couldn't find anything in that post relevant to this thread.

[Russ1953]

Forum. Guess I'm right. There will always be some people who like to dog individual thinkers by posturing. Beats passive aggresive I guess. Still I'd lean to the free thinkers when the chips are down. I'ts creativity that creates harmony.

[PWrong]

There will always be some people who like to dog individual thinkers by posturing.

I have nothing against individual thinking. It's just long irrelevent posts that annoy me sometimes. You might be better off starting new topics. It's mostly that you joined at a particularly bad time. I just finished my exams yesterday, I'm still a bit confused by Gerren's sudden conversion to atheism, and two of our members are missing. So it just irritates me when a new member makes long posts that I can't relate to the topic. I hope I didn't offend you too much.