## Dreaming= 4d?

Discussions about the possibility of consciousness, free will, spirits, deities, religions and so on, and how these might interact with time travel, the Big Bang, many worlds and so on.

### Re: Dreaming= 4d?

wendy wrote:So it is quite possible to have hyperbolic geometry in dreams, or some of the escherine things, or even four dimensions, but these must also exist in concious thought.

So if you haven't grasped concious 4d or 5d or hyperbolic visualisations, then they're not going to occur in your dreams.

I agree. I still remember that it was just a year ago tesseracts and other 4D shapes started to appear in my dreams, though due to my understanding of higher dimensions is still primitive, what I saw are just replay of the projection simulations I saw when awake. Nevertheless, in one of the dream, I manage to spin a tesseract voluntarily and in any directions.
I also remember I dreamt of a 3 sphere, which is most probably because I had been working on the model in sketchup for 3 days when awake.
Still it seems that my subconscious does not grasp higher dimensions very well, as none of these 4D dreams provide new insights in interpret the shapes properly

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If dreams is just a collection of things that we experience when we were awake, then I think precognition (were you can see your entire timeline of your life) is something highly unlikely
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### Re: Dreaming= 4d?

arcaneidea wrote:Assuming that we "evolve" into other dimensions, we came from the second dimension. If dimensions overlap each other in subsequent realities, than the earth, or the universe for that matter, does exist on the second dimension, just much different than we might imagine. Assuming the big bang was the beginning of all dimensions, we are constantly evolving to be able to cope first with the present dimension then the coming dimension. If our brain evolved to construct a 3d image in our head from 2d information collected by the retina, what evolution puts us into the fourth dimension? I would say dreaming does as it seems we enter a world where time is not present and the natural laws we obey here do not apply there. Anyone want to elaborate?

I don't really see any connection with the 4th dimension. However dreams are only bounded by math so anything can happen. Heck, you might visualize 4d for all I know.
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3dftw wrote:First of all, arcaneidea, didn't you say you had an experience with a higher intelligence...after taking shrooms? And secondly who said that the Big Bang is a
scientifically verifiable event
?
It's a theory, nothing more.
By the way, I thought that it was a well known fact that dreams are just visions of things we've done in a past life, or prophetic visions about things we are to do in future lives.

DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT THEORY MEANS IN SCIENCE?!
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### Re: Dreaming= 4d?

Exotic R4 implies that biological evolution is possible only in 4D. The remaining dimensions are relics of (are defined by) other points created by initial Big Bang singularity. Our perception is an illusion of the moment that passes. Nothing "is" 3D or 4D.
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