Malaktix wrote:Why must there always be a beginning?
Rkyeun wrote:A black hole warps space and time at right angles to our reality, creating a new universe from which energy cannot escape back into ours. The time of this new universe is perpendicular to our time. This means that all of the energy absorbed by the black hole during its entire duration is included in the 'big bang' of this new universe at time0, which projects outwards at a right angle from the moment in our time when the black hole evaporates and explodes. Because the ray is perpendicular, the entire infinite lifespan of that new universe occurs in that instant.
Rkyeun wrote:At least, that's my perception. This seems to solve the information paradox and the energy paradox that black holes exhibit. The lost information and energy is being shunted into another universe, which then grows its own black holes...
wendy wrote:it is quite possible that there was no beginning, but it does not make sense.
Rkyeun wrote:My belief is that the duration of a universe is a ray. It has a defined start and no terminating point.
A black hole has a finite lifespan. It is formed, consumes everything in its local area, begins to vaporate, and then explodes. Most of the energy is released back into its universe by the blast.
A black hole warps space and time at right angles to our reality, creating a new universe from which energy cannot escape back into ours. The time of this new universe is perpendicular to our time. This means that all of the energy absorbed by the black hole during its entire duration is included in the 'big bang' of this new universe at time0, which projects outwards at a right angle from the moment in our time when the black hole evaporates and explodes. Because the ray is perpendicular, the entire infinite lifespan of that new universe occurs in that instant.
The new universe is defined by the energy that fell in. Thus there is no sense of scale with the old universe. Even the tiniest amount of unspent energy is sufficient to form an entirely new universe.
At least, that's my perception. This seems to solve the information paradox and the energy paradox that black holes exhibit. The lost information and energy is being shunted into another universe, which then grows its own black holes...
wendy wrote:it is quite possible that there was no beginning, but it does not make sense.
How may I ask? If the universe was infinitely old, then why isn't civilization more advanced, and why isn't the night sky as bright as the day?
RQ wrote:Unfortunately this is the Strong Anthropic principle which breaks down to the weak one which states that the universe has the same laws throughout all regions.
Somehow, we leap from the non-existance of a beginning to the notion of infinitely o;d. Maybe i'm amazed!
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it is quite possible that there was no beginning, but it does not make sense.
How may I ask? If the universe was infinitely old, then why isn't civilization more advanced, and why isn't the night sky as bright as the day?
Somehow, we leap from the non-existance of a beginning to the notion of infinitely old. Maybe i'm amazed!
Legend has it that before this world, there were six earlier worlds that went down, this is the seventh. Some talk of the big crunch as the harbringer of a new big bang. We see only from the last bang, not from the beginning of all time.
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I will repeat my objection again: If the universe is infinitely old, how can you explain why useful energy still exists? Why hasn't entropy already reached its maximum, given that the Second Law of Thermodynamics states that entropy can never decrease?
Gilles wrote:Well, if that law is true, and I beleive it is, there will be no big crunch. And if there will no big crunch, because of that law, there has never been one either.
Gilles wrote:Thus, universe has always been smaller then it is now, hasn't it?
Gilles wrote:Useful energy still exists, because of interaction, and because of infiniteness. Energy can allways come from higher levels, as it can come from lower levels, and from levels that don't even have a direction to us, simply because we would call them everywhere. They're in between now and an infinite fraction of a second after now.
Gilles wrote:So to a molecule, maximum entropy lies just a few levels above him. As for us, i don't think there is a difference.
What may seem like a total lack of order to us (maximum entropy), is just a higher kind of order, and thus, everything is both order and chaos, depending from the point where you look at it.
For instance, every time I open the refrigerator door, the light turns on. I could hypothesize that this phenomenon is caused by little green men living inside the fridge, who turn the light on everytime I open the door. But such a hypothesis assumes the existence of little green men, and such an assumption is not necessary for an explanation of why the light turns on. Thus, by Occam's Razor, I should prefer an explanation that does not involve little green men.
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