irockyou wrote:The Big Bang rules out god.
irockyou wrote:The T.O.E. can definitely rule out god. The Big Bang rules out god.
jinydu wrote:irockyou wrote:The T.O.E. can definitely rule out god. The Big Bang rules out god.
No, the hypothesis that God exists is unfalsifiable. Believers can always claim that God just manipulated the Universe so that it appears to be governed by our scientific theories.
Not if it contradicts their religious scripture, they can't. The Big Bang and Evolution rule out the Abrahamic religions, which is a good chunk of the population right there.
What scientific theories can do is make the hypothesis that God exists unecessary for explaining physical phenomena.
The Big Bang and Evolution rule out the Abrahamic religions, which is a good chunk of the population right there.
The whole Jesus thing doesn't make sense anyway. I mean, he supposedly died in a noble self-sacrifice, so that God would forgive us for everything. But then he just came back three days later! I don't know where he's supposed to be now, but he's either still here, or he's in heaven where he belongs. Where's the big sacrifice? He went through some pain on the cross, and he spent three days dead. Is that really enough?
Pwrong, have you ever been crucified, beaten, tortured, having to carry a huge wooden cross on your back for a mile, and then killed?
No person has had that happen to them besides Jesus and maybe a couple of other people, but then to also be rejected by the people that you live for?
Jesus' relatively insignificant suffering
Yes, in the respect of crusifixion, but if you put all of the other facts and happenings into play, then no, no other criminal went through what he did.
Also, why did God need to impregnate some women and torture the Baby? Why couldn't he just forgive our sins?
Obviously, if he just forgave us for our sins, wouldnt that make him seem more like a weak being who is easy on the punches? The sacrifice Jesus made had to be so empowering and great that no person would take what happened for granted.
1. Would God rather just forgive man and let him sin just like before?
2. Would God rather make a huge event that would end up making him forgive man for his sin and instilling a great awe in the sinners to help them not sin anymore?
Obviously you would want option 2, but you would still think of the coach as a much weaker one than one who made you do those push-ups.
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