PWrong wrote:I might have had a VRI a few weeks ago when I held a party. One second I was downstairs playing drinking games, and the next second I was upstairs making a drunken attempt to play the piano.
I've had other experiences where I seem to teleport from a club to a kebab shop, then to someone's house.
Rob wrote:Hmm, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a VRI, but would an example of it be the fact that when I sleep the other end of my bed, I feel the wrong way round in the morning?
PWrong wrote:I might have had a VRI a few weeks ago when I held a party. One second I was downstairs playing drinking games, and the next second I was upstairs making a drunken attempt to play the piano.
I've had other experiences where I seem to teleport from a club to a kebab shop, then to someone's house.
irockyou wrote:Hmmm... I see, Hugh. This concept of VRI's is pretty interesting. I don't think I can do it at will, though, but I'll try the next time I go to a movie theater.
Well, maybe it takes half a bottle of Jim Beam to help unleash my psychic powers...I think that's just you being drunk...
If the flip was permanent, that would make it more likely that you just staggered to the right without realising it. If the VRI is more complicated, then maybe it's some kind of miniature, partly controlled hallicination.I'm curious, how long did that new view position hold? Was it only a second or two or were you able to hold it there longer? Did you notice that everything else had flipped around too, as in the rest of your house?
Hugh wrote:Rob wrote:Hmm, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by a VRI, but would an example of it be the fact that when I sleep the other end of my bed, I feel the wrong way round in the morning?
Ummmmmm, I think that's just due to sleeping the wrong way round that you feel the wrong way round. You'll know it's a VRI when you see things the "wrong way round".
PWrong wrote:If the flip was permanent, that would make it more likely that you just staggered to the right without realising it. If the VRI is more complicated, then maybe it's some kind of miniature, partly controlled hallicination.
PWrong wrote:@Hugh: have you ever had a VRI with someone watching you? That might help you figure out what's actually going on.
Rob wrote:Well, my nearest bedroom wall is usually on my right. What's the difference between seeing the wall on my left and feeling like it's on my right (which is what happens in that situation), and seeing the wall on my right and feeling like it's on my left (which has never happened)?
You could be watching me, flipping through all four of the different viewpoints for myself by conscious will, and you could be staying in the same one viewpoint for yourself.
The VRI flip involves a complete flip of you and your entire viewpoint. If you normally fall asleep with the wall on your right, and wake up with the wall still on your right, but with it now on the side where your left once was, and your head is now facing the direction where your feet once were, but your bed and the entire universe have all flipped around 180 degrees from where they "once were" too, that's a 180 degree VRI.
PWrong wrote:Yes, but I might see you turn your head or something. Do you actually see anything in a VRI that you couldn't see otherwise? For instance, what if I was holding a sign that you can't read from whatever angle you're looking from? Could you do a VRI and then be able to read it?
PWrong wrote:Doesn't that mean he just rolled over in bed?
Rob wrote:So you're saying it's just a psychological trick? Then it isn't really very 4D.
Rob wrote:Hugh wrote:Try the VRI for yourself and actually experience it.
That would be kind of difficult.
Rob wrote:I just don't go to the movies.Yeah, I have no social life, so sue me, lol.
Rob wrote:Still, I have no idea what I would do to achieve this VRI.
Rob wrote:Okay, I tried that, but I didn't really notice anything odd...
thigle wrote:but i overlooked that axplanation with mirrors. however, now, having you re-state it, i noticed, and tried and its simple and it works. really cool shit.i owe you for this one
Keiji wrote:So, would you call that a successful VRI?
Hugh wrote:I know the feeling you are talking about exactly. VRIs can happen when one is awaking from a snooze or sleep. You were used to being in your bed in a certain orientation, but you've recently changed it 180 degrees. When you awoke, you thought you were in the normal orientation, but it was actually 180 degrees flipped around.
1) did you actually see everything flipped around 180 degrees, and
2) did you experience a 180 degree VRI flip back to the "normal" orientation; how you normally see it?
Keiji wrote:Well, considering that it was 10 PM at night and the only thing I could see was my laptop, I'd have to say no to both of those.
Icon wrote:Whats VRI? And how can you see a flip if you or the object isn't even moving?
Keiji wrote:So hmm are you saying that the misjudgement of where something is indicates a VRI flip?
Example: right now, I'm facing north, but I feel like America is on my right, which it isn't, because it's west of Britain.
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