Hugh wrote:If the universe has a fourth spatial dimension, then we would have four spatial dimensions as well because we're in it. We just may be limited from seeing all of it at once. If we were actually 4d, but only capable of visualizing 3d of it at any one time, we would still be able to see at least a 3d "slice" of anything else that is 4d around us. We would just have to turn and look at it.
Just because we are in it doesn't mean we'd have to have 4 spacial dimensions as well. Take for instance a 2D realm within our own 3D realm. Like drawings on a wall or other surface. That surface exists in a 3D realm and the drawings on it do aswell but because whatever entity is in that surface may not be able to recognize 3D objects nor are they effected by 3D objects often if not ever at all.
I can't think of any living let alone intelligent 2D entities, but still take Fred are friendly lil' triangle... he could only see left right up and down. Never seeing anything off of the slip of paper he was drawn on... If we we happen to be drawn on the surface of some wall or object that is 4 dimensional we may not ever recognize nor would there be and 4D objects sitting inside our realm... maybe on top of it. You can never know exactly.
Anyways... how would we know if we were looking at a 3D slice of a 4D object anyhow? If by what you state that we all would be 4 dimensional that means our bodies that we see are a 3D slice of our 4dimensional bodies... that would mean that the 3D slice would look like everything around us and would not explain anything about what we were looking at supernatural.
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to approach the first guys topic of supernatural things it could be possible true.
For instance UFOs or Jesus Christ passing through locked doors and moving far distances in a blink of an eye. If a 4th spacial dimension existed you could say that possibly this explains UFOs easily.
It may not be they are 4dimensional... but indeed 3dimensional like us. It's just the problem everyone has with UFOs is that it would take millenias for an intelligent being to make it all the way here as it is believed nothing can go faster then the speed of light. But a 4th dimension would explain them as they could easily pass into the 4th dimension choose a point in our realm and enter back in. (obviousily stated time and time again in this very forum). Same goes for Jesus...
again we may be wrong... shit we only 'assume' that nothing can go faster then light. No one has done it yet, so we are not sure. Though I don't know how an organic creature would survive the force put onto its body by such immense speed. At the speeds of several 100 MPH really screws up the body already.
All I'm saying is that I feel robinlee was looking for more of an answer... and I feel in speaking about a science we know so little about everything must be accounted for and all is possible. The unphathomable is that, everything you can NEVER dream of. It also should go that we should never assume only one science will explain it.
When I was in 4th grade I learned a way of looking at things from a fictional novel. I also learned how chauvanistic humans are. The book was "Sphere" (I know you've read it or atleast seen the crappy movie) and it was the part where they just discovered there is intelligent life inside of the sphere... everyone starts guessing what it will look like and if it is violent. The woman steps forward and states that why should this creature even be organic or violent. What if the creature has no emotion or what if it breathed in carbon dioxide and exhaled carbon monoxide and killed them accidently just be standing in the vicinity of them.
I thought for a moment and discounted the idea of lil' green men all together. (well not all together, but you get what I mean).
To much RedBull makes me stupid; sorry.
I love it when people jump into the realm of philosophy or theory and then denote things because it sounds unbelievable to them.
Science requires faith.