thigle wrote:life is not 'atom-bound'. even massless abstract informational beings can be considered life. and there still might be stable orbits. check out the gravity thread.
Hugh wrote:Matter and energy are different forms of the same thing.
Do you think that life is confined to only matter? Is it possible that a being of pure energy could exist somewhere in the universe?
thigle wrote:do you think that your credentials or level of 'scientific seriousness' is really above guys like Tony Smith ? or Jack Sarfatti or Paul Siraq, David Bohm, or 't Hooft ? or Michio Kaku, etc, etc... ?
Is it possible that a being of pure energy could exist somewhere in the universe?
All known living organisms rely on DNA or RNA, long and complex chains of molecules.
I'm trying to point out the difference between scientific hypotheses and unscientific speculation.
Personally, I'm worried that 4D physics will be too chaotic to allow life. It's not just the orbits and atoms. All forms of energy spread out too quickly. It would be hard for a 4D cell to hold itself together.
If we had a 4D light source and attempted to capture light from it, we would only ever get 0% of it, since the surfaces of 3D objects have 0 volume.
Life will always find a way to exist and grow. The forms that it takes on elsewhere in the universe are likely beyond anything that we can imagine.
If we were actually 4d, but could only see with 2d extending plane vision, giving us a 3d slice view of our surroundings, and had a 4d light source, and attempted to capture light from it, what would we get if we used a 4d object to do so? Wouldn't it be more than 0%?
4d life doesn't need a material cell. energy/matter is not information.
It won't be long before we will be able to watch and talk to a robot, and be convinced that it is alive.
Make a slit in a piece of paper, and hold it between a light source and your eyes. Can you see the light? Now make the slit infinitely thin. Can you still see it?
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