Surgery

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Surgery

Postby Kevin_Ahab » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:12 pm

If a kidnly tetraspace being ever chanced upon our Universe, or Realmspace, or Realmland, and saw someone who needed surgery, they could help, by simply picking out the tumor or whatever.

We could do the same to planar beings, and they to linear beings.
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Postby Nick » Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:13 pm

Yeah. I don't quite understand what your point is, though :?
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Postby moonlord » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:39 pm

Maybe he just wants to be sure...
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Postby Nick » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:52 pm

Oh. In that case, yes, you are absolutely correct. :)
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Postby moonlord » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:59 pm

That is, in the hypothesis that there exist inter-dimensional interactions. And that's not sure either.

Maybe the higher dimensional entity can punch a finger through the lower dimensional one, maybe they can't see the other at all.
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Postby bo198214 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 1:14 pm

Not really.
I know no 2d world I could interact with.
Every cut through the 3d world is *no* proper 2d world because they have no proper physical laws.
For example we take some cylinder of the same material and same diameter but of different length. We place them so such that the cut with the potential 2d world are disks. If we now play billiard or so the behaviour the disks is different because their 3d objects have different mass because of their different length. Though their appearance is complety equal in the 2d world. If we have two 3d objects with completely equal appearance then their behaviour is also equal.
So it seems to me that every cut through a certain world is not an independent world itself. Every object of that cut is associated with a 3d object. So every inhabitant of the 2 world must be associated with a 3d inhabitant. But then we can anyway regard the 3d inhabitant ...

Hm, maybe the thoughts have to be sorted a bit, but the main assertion is that we have no example of our world interacting with a (proper) 2d world, so why then assume interacting a 4d world with our 3d world.
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Postby papernuke » Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:20 am

Well, they couldn't just pick the tumor off because its atttached to the body, but yea they can do surgury on other stuff like the heart or brain without cutting the head or chest open.
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Postby houserichichi » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:47 am

They could cut the tumor out without tearing our skin just like we can could cut out a piece of a square without ever tearing open its boundary. They could also see what's under your clothing without ever taking you out for dinner. Yikes!
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This format is of the second dimention

Postby Russ1953 » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:11 pm

Our thoughts are 2nd dimentional. The cranium when exposed does not reveal the alphabet nor pictures. They are stored in charged cells. A horror movie retains more detailed information than a studious input session. This is based on the amount of involuntary energy released and then encapsulated in the cell. If we raised the endorfin level of educational valued information genius would be rampant and we would adapt a higher level of exploration. Have you ever asked why Sidonia (the face oin Mars) is not the first place we sent probes to. Because the cerebrals want to explore it first before it is devulged. Thats their rush. Ours is only contemplation of the finds through imagination. Of which I believe is far more advantages in the long run because the parameters have no theoretic limits to premise. The hands on person is limited to only abstract analysis and will eventually need the creative novice to complete the study. In truth, there is nothing you can't see that can't be known and if anything anywhere is contemplated you can draw it nigh by an open mind. No-one owns perception, their just there first.
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Postby papernuke » Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:59 am

Our thoughts arent 2d, only our sight is, but we're in the third dimension, so therefore our thoughts are 3d. But some people can create images of 4d objects, and almost anyone can picture a 2d object like a square or a 1d object in their head.
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Postby PWrong » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:54 am

The cranium when exposed does not reveal the alphabet nor pictures. They are stored in charged cells.

There's nothing 2D about that. The charged cells are either 3D, or they can be approximated by 0D points.

A computer memory has as many dimensions as it has bits, because its memory is isomorphic to Z<sub>2</sub><sup>n</sup>

Have you ever asked why Sidonia (the face oin Mars) is not the first place we sent probes to.

Maybe because most sensible people realise it's not really a face?
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