Orientation Problems in 2d

Ideas about how a world with more than three spatial dimensions would work - what laws of physics would be needed, how things would be built, how people would do things and so on.

Postby thigle » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:31 pm

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Postby Russ1953 » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:24 pm

A being could hide in the 2nd dimension, exit to forage, then return. This would take the external pressures that the 3rd dimension places on them called time acceleration. This would give them an added longetivity and they could not be followed. The 2nd dimension has no space nor time/location only proximity of entry and return. They would not ever be in the same place they entered or exited only enveloped.
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Postby PWrong » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:04 am

This would take the external pressures that the 3rd dimension places on them called time acceleration.
For a 3D being to hide in 2D would require an infinite amount of pressure, to crush you into something infinitely flat.

The 2nd dimension has no space nor time/location

Of course it does. 2 dimensions of space, and one of time. Otherwise it wouldn't be called the 2nd dimension, would it?
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Postby papernuke » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:53 am

alkaline wrote:Height isn't a dimension.


How? I was in the geometry chapter in my math book in fifth grade (last year), and we had to find the area of an object, which was length times heighth times breadth (they called it width). So isn't highth a dimension, and if it weren't, then how could we be tall? With hight?
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Postby PWrong » Sat Nov 11, 2006 4:50 am

we had to find the area of an object, which was length times heighth times breadth (they called it width).

Do you mean volume?

So isn't highth a dimension, and if it weren't, then how could we be tall? With hight?

Height is a measure of a dimension, like length and width. It's just a way of saying how big something is in a given direction. Technically there is no mathematical definition of "a dimension". You can only talk about "the dimension" of a given space. So the dimension of our universe is 3.

When you talk about up, forwards and right, that's called a basis for 3D space. Another basis is North, West and up. The dimension of a space is defined as the number of things in your basis.
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Re: n-space orientation in n+1 -space

Postby Apeironian » Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:58 pm

Aale de Winkel wrote:curiously I've not seen this adressed yet.

I think however that an n-onian in finding himself in the intersection of 2 n-spaces wouldn't notice the existence of the other n-space, simply since his senses are stuck in his own n-space.
Just in case an funny n+1-onian forces the n-onian into the other n-space he might shift from one n-space into another, but this can also be done of course when the n-spaces don't interact in n+1-space.

This is taken us into the existence of parrallel universae, which might as well intersect. And of course some n-onian might create a passage, the tv-(?)series "sliders" is based upon this idea.

By definition, parallel universes do not intersect.

What about skew universes in the n+2th dimention? :]
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Postby Apeironian » Sun Dec 16, 2007 6:24 pm

Fine.

Nilonian (?)
Mononian
Dionian
Trionian
Teronian
Pentonian
Hexonian (?)
Seponian (?)
Octonian
Nononian
Deconian
Decmononian
...
Centonian (?)
...
Milonian (?)
...
Infinonian (?)
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Re: n-space orientation in n+1 -space

Postby Hugh » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:23 am

☺ wrote:By definition, parallel universes do not intersect.


I think Aale meant "other" universes in the same sense as what "Sliders" was based on.

It's interesting to think about two intersecting 3D universes in 4D space and the consequences of that...
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