bo198214 wrote:That Goedels mathematical proof is not correct, thats for. I was so excited to see a mathematical proof of god...
You can't prove that there is a God that exists. You can only prove that a God is possible to exist.
bo198214 wrote:That Goedels mathematical proof is not correct, thats for. I was so excited to see a mathematical proof of god...
You can't prove that there is a God that exists. You can only prove that a God is possible to exist.
I would interpret the "positive" as "true".
Another problem is that it proves that God exists in the same way that the number 6 exists.
Besides, if you couldn't prove that God exists, then atheism wouldn't be falsifiable (and therefore not a valid philosophy).
Of course you can. If you died and actually saw God, and he sent you to heaven/hell, that would prove to you that God exists.
exactly, I voted vor "dont care" because I dont fit into the other categories and "dont care" is nearest to "other".
You're right, it wouldn't be a philosophy, it would turn into a fact.
PWrong wrote:Why can't a fact also be a philosophy?
Dictionary.com wrote:the rational investigation of the truths and principles of being, knowledge, or conduct.
irockyou wrote:EDIT: How do you know the sun isn't our god? Have you ever seen God? He could be a flying spaghetti monster for all you know
You go to heaven through faith in God, following the ten commandments, and being baptised (Catholocism, that is). All three of those must be true to reach heaven. If it was ever proved that a God exists, then it is impossible to have faith in it; because we know it to exist, the necessity of faith is eliminated. Which means that if proven, we all go to hell.
Postulate number 4 is wrong, actually.
1+2 -> 3 -> 4 -> 5 -> 6
1. Postulate 1: God is benevolent.
2. Postulate 2: Those who don't believe in God will go to Hell.
3. God does not want us to go to Hell.
4. God would do (and can do, since Postulate 3: God is all powerful) anything to make us believe in him so we don't go to Hell.
5. To save me from Hell, God must prove his existence.
6. God has not proven his existence to me, therefore steps 1 and/or 2 have been contradicted and cannot be true.
Therefore, either God is no benevolent or faith is not required to go to Heaven.
Universally_thinking wrote:Logically, defintion of god
creator of life,
sustains life,
great,
powerfull
if thats the definition then the Sun is our god, it does make sense.
i would agree. its a default ticket to heaven. with our imperfection, why not have that? lol but i would rather hav free will than forced worship tho
Viruses aren't alive either even though they evolve. Viruses and prions both cannot reproduce.
Also, pwrong, when you talk about self replicating molecules in the beginning, you are correct, but most of them were probably prions. Prions are proteins that basically can destroy cells and they self replicate like a virus, BUT although they self replicate doesnt mean theyre LIVING, correct? prions are nonliving
God (being benevolent) will naturally force us to believe in Him, for our own sake
Slight differences in their structure will accumalate and result in a living object.
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